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our code isn't better currently

we need to sort out our situation first before putt would be willing at all to essentially delete all of voat's previous submissions, comments, users and karma

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They could be inserted by Go1dfish. I do however thing it's a dumb idea even though I'm arguing it's impossible.

Why are people here? Because they are hoping for something different than Voat.

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I am here because I believe in this new form of moderation that go1dfish is working on, where content and curation are two separate layers that are independent of eachother.

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I'm pretty excited to see how this will work out.

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We're here for the freedom, same reason we use voat.

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except voat took a totalitarian turn and chased away anyone challenging it

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Voat is not totalitarian. Its users are. Notabug is comparatively more totalitarian than voat considering it removes content it is under no legal obligation to remove.

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To be fair voat doesn't have a legal obligation to remove dox posts either, but they ban them anyway.

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[Notabug] removes content it is under no legal obligation to remove.

Does it?

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Doxing and jailbait are banned.

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To be fair, some of NaB's peers allow that content. Nothing can truely be banned in this system. If you wanted, you could host a peer with zero rules.

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totalitarian =/= your ass got smoked in a debate

totalitarian =/= nobody wants to what your selling

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of course not, the issue I'm having with it is the rate limiting that was meant for bots being used against legitimate users.

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notabug as a service is not about any political ideology except creating software that counters censorship, and possibly oppression.

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You just defined national socialism.

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Not a good idea, NOT A BUG's singular advantage over Voat is that it does not have the reputation of being the "frontpage of the internet for assholes". I'm all for free speech. 110%. And yes, that includes all the worst "hate speech". Be an uncensored platform, and allow for open dialog, free speech, and all ideas... just don't have the salty stuff front and center. It's nearly impossible to build a balanced community when it's primarily one-sided discussions. A "normal" person will browse Voat once, see every other post title contains a racial slur, and leave. If you only have one side of the conversation, you have an echo chamber.

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the place needs users, if you wish to block the "nigger" "kike" and other shit voat likes to do then you can do so without throwing away the "good" parts

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This place needs organic growth from diverse sources of users.

Importing Voat en-mass will destroy it overnight.

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Are you saying mass immigration is bad?

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oy vey, shut it down

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I disagree. The kind of people who use Voat won't migrate here unless they're allowed to say slurs as much and as often as they want.

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and they will be and those who do not wish to hear them doing that won't

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Precisely, there can be Voat related topics for those who wish to sport among their own and there will be larger general topics that won't see that as much if they want their content seen. Also, spaces should be able to filter out problem posts for varying communities that don't want to see 'assholes' openly communicating and likewise for voaters who probably don't want to see every 'commie' post out there.

For the 'normies' who first visit the site, they'll probably navigate to NAB without knowing alternative peers and specific spaces, so the vanilla NAB would probably see these things minimally if it wants to grow its user base.

Currently /t/jailbait isn't seen on the original NAB but is still present on redguardsaustin.com. This could be the same for a 'Voat peer' and 'Raddle peer' posting to their desired topics. Similarly, /t/niggers when it was getting posts was frequently downvoted by users, though not censored from site. Such topics could be filtered by default space configurations, since it's not dancing on the illegal line for the peer hosting it, but in order to better welcome the general public especially since it will likely see increased support from a Voat merge.

I expect the same would be done for NSFW topics and posts not appearing unless specifically desired by the user or peer.

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Oh no, I get that. The other comment sounded like they thought voaters would migrate even if they were censored.

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fuck normies

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Fuck deliberately building echo-chambers.

Go to facebook for that.

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I agree. Let's make this a place for normies and autismos.

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We're already going to do that once the code is ready.

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Oh, lovely.

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yeah, poal also has shown interest in merging if our code was better

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What about raddle?

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here's the full thread with their initial reaction to notabug (before all the back and forth raiding)

https://raddle.me/f/Tech/32593/i-ve-built-a-decentralized-reddit-clone-in-javascript-on-top

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There was a much longer thread but someone posted it with a shared account (/u/anonymous) so I logged in a deleted the whole thing because they were calling us nazis.

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Yeah. You could log into any of the shared accounts and delete entire posts and wipe out all the comments in them before they changed the passwords to stop me.

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that system is really bad, why would you take away the comments as well when you delete a post?

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because they're stupid

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Because the OP owns the post and it's theirs to delete if they want to. Don't you believe in private property?

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private property

But they're commies, lol.

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The password was 'anonymous':

https://raddle.me/f/SharedLogins

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"Poking holes in hierarchies is what we do."

Holy cringe. What are these guys smoking?

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anarchy

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:I

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And the they changed the password to the anonymous account so no one could use it lolol.

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raddle said something among the lines of "fuck nazis"

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That's a shame. We're stronger together.

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We're all socialists, I don't know why they have to be so divisive and sectarian.

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You're not socialists.

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we're national socialists, the best kind of socialist there is

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The only kind of socialist that actually works to bring the people socialism.

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Why exactly do you call yourselves that? Do you have anything to do with the original national socialists?

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Link?

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go1dfish mentioned it in chat months ago

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In time, need more feature development first.

When the time is right, Voat and other communities will come to notabug wanting to assimilate.

Also notabug.io is not dedicated to national socialism. Personally I find socialism and the state to be repugnant.

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"But only nazis like free speech!!!"

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YOU WILL ASSIMILATE. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

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YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.

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Voat is awful, what the hell are you thinking?

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This would be a dream come true.

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That would be great but Voat can never pay its bills, how bandwidth happy is notabug so far?

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That's because they stopped accepting donations or advertisements. I don't even know how you can support voat other than tracking down the owner and throwing money at him.

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since it's decentralized the burden is shared among the peers

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But wouldn't voat effectively be turned into the main peer? And still be paying the server costs for the same sized userbase?

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there are plans to make peer installation more user friendly, a standalone client that you could connect and contribute to the network with

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Fuck off we hate national socialism

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we hate

Only a commie would speak collectively for the whole community like that. GTFO.

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The same could be said of OP.

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dedicated to free speech and national socialism

Excuse me?

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Nationalism without socialism is just a bunch of oligarchs.

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You're free to think what you want but I'm a capitalist. Don't act like you speak for every person on this site.

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Fuck Voat, voat can suck my grandmothers dick.

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No you.

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no u

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I'd love this. Make it so, fish!

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What makes you think voat would want to merge?

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stronger infrastructure mostly

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Well this is funny in hindsight.

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This place is so much better than voat. Why would you break it?

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Because this place has the tech but voat has the users.

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It would also improve notabug's politics. Currently we sway too far left.

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It would improve voat's politics as well, needs more challengers

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Completely agree.

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I agree, its a win-win for all :)

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we sway too far left.

oh you're a voat refugee. go back to where you came from.

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so what your saying is that you want everybody to think exactly the same?

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Nice strawman, not everyone who disagrees with you is the same

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Voat's silo of users made voat irrelevant bullshit.

Why would you kill this site by importing them here?

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Let's do it.

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Only a fool would think Voat is dedicated to free speech. They are dedicated to ensuring their speech is free.. just like raddle, and all the other sites practicing ideological censorship.